Tim Johnson and Chris Shipley are just a couple of old dudes who came together to talk about the way it used to be and the way it has to be now. They laugh, get mad, cuss and talk about how to handle adversity with careers and family and how to come out on top.

Join Tim and Chris as they visit with Marques Sullivan, former Buffalo Bill, NY Giant and New England Patriot as they talk about life as a lineman, what prepares you for an nfl career and what it’s like life after football.